tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post7629758099838412844..comments2023-10-10T10:50:56.735+02:00Comments on Inanities: Streets apartSarah Carrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02146943046266549277noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-12152814421144990672007-04-15T01:58:00.000+02:002007-04-15T01:58:00.000+02:00Hello again!* I read your blog and I laughed it of...Hello again!<BR/><BR/>* I read your blog and I laughed it off, but then later I read the same blog in Ahram weekly, and then I got pissed. what belongs on a blog, is not always what can be published somewhere like Ahram as part of the 'Culture' section.<BR/>* Will E: I'm here, as I said before, as a result of googling Monument X, yes, we-contemporary artists- do google our own work sometimes! And I'm back again ‘cause I expected Sara to write back.<BR/>* I think people should make some effort before accusing art as being inaccessible. Sure everyone has the right to view art and go to galleries and say what they Think.. but that’s after they.. Think.<BR/>It’s so easy to look at something and say Oh, I don’t understand.. im outta here.<BR/><BR/>*I didn’t say Danielle Steel was rubbish. But as Titanic is different from.. Kubrick or David Lynch’s stuff for example. I’ve watched Titanic, but some people can only digest or appreciate Titanic. It’s not about what’s ‘real’ art and what’s not.. hmm, ok, let me put it this way: if you do not like Danielle Steel, read Shakespeare, instead of wasting your time attacking Steel.. and let Steel lovers read Steel as long as it doesn’t do you no harm. <BR/><BR/>* I didn’t mean you had something against Collins or Warren, but what I meant was: wasting so much time and effort on attacking them makes it seem like you have something against them..and against artists in general.<BR/><BR/>* Surely there’s a lot of bull S*** done under the name of Conceptual Art, but there’s also a lot of valuable works out there to see and read about.<BR/><BR/>*We have a great lack of art criticism in Egypt, and when Ahram hires someone like you- who has read a book or 2 as you say about contemporary art- it only worsen this problem and lack of real criticism. Ahram has proven more than once to be an unreliable source of information, so it doesn’t come as a real surprise. And now you try to justify their choice by saying you were chosen for ‘other skills’ (?). When you write the culture column of such a widespread and well known publication, without enough –if any- knowledge then it’s a crime. I cannot write the Economy column in Ahram saying I was hired for my writing skills, while I have no Economical background or education at all. This will simply turn the Economy page into a joke. I don’t see any reason Arts should be treated differently.<BR/><BR/>* As for installation, or video art, being inaccessible: If you read Hegel or Heidegger unprepared or without giving it enough time and effort to really get it, you will end up calling philosophy bombastic bull s***, which many people do.<BR/><BR/>** I didn’t fall “into the trap of correlating what I presumably perceive as 'real' art with unquestionable quality while dismissing anything with popular appeal as rubbish” I guess you did so.. calling this as rubbish and that as nonsense.. and I quote:. “his stupid meaningless nonsense” “she is passing off glass as diamonds”.. <BR/>-or “She has basically taken a lump of clay, or poo, or whatever it is, smacked it about a few times to make an amorphous mess, baked it, seen that it is still an amorphous mess, and thought to herself “hmm…how can I pull one over on the tossers on the Turner Prize Committee and win me some green… I know! I’ll put a nipple on it!”<BR/>THESE ARE THE WORDS OF SOMEONE WRITING THE ‘CULTURE’ COLUMN IN AHARM WEEKLY-REVIEWING ART SHOWS AND OTHER ‘CULTURAL’ EVENTS!!!<BR/><BR/>WHAT CULTURE??<BR/><BR/>*** So to make it short: If you believe contemporary art is full of rubbish-as you said in your other blog- and installation art is inaccessible, then don’t bother and go to these kind of art shows, let alone review it!<BR/><BR/>****if you or any of your readers have any more comments, kindly email them to me.<BR/>TZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-48213302356781344402007-04-13T14:38:00.000+02:002007-04-13T14:38:00.000+02:00Tarek,1. Wasting time on Phil Collins et al - note...Tarek,<BR/><BR/>1. Wasting time on Phil Collins et al - note the title of this blog.<BR/><BR/>2. Reading books about contemporary art - I assure you that I have dipped into one or two. To me, art should be more immediate. I shouldn't have to read the accompanying instructions.<BR/><BR/>3. Haiku vs. Danielle Steel hehe, nice analogy, but in my opinion you have fallen into the trap of correlating what you presumably perceive as 'real' art with unquestionable quality while dismissing anything with popular appeal as rubbish. I do not have the same approach. <BR/><BR/>4. I like Gauguin but am not overly keen on Danielle Steel.<BR/><BR/>5. re. the yellow people and red sea: I am not wholly opposed to anything avant garde. My problem is with installation art as a medium - a problem I share with several, knowledgeable art enthusiasts of my acquaintance, might I add. I would have really valued the opportunity for you to share with me your vision of installation art, but I sense that you are really angered by my approach and possibly even my general existence, which brings me to my next point, which is that:<BR/><BR/>6. I had never heard of, met or seen the artists I refer to in the Turner Prize post before writing it, and only saw Collins being interviewed for two minutes, making it pretty much impossible for me to personalise the attack on them themselves. My criticism is limited to their art.<BR/><BR/>7. 'Blogs and stuff' are surely just another form of self-expression, of varying quality. If you're not of a literary bent I can understand why you dont go for them, but some of the best writing I have read has been on blogs. <BR/><BR/>8. Yes you are right about Gauguin, art always has its detractors, but if you put something in the public space then surely you must be prepared for the positive and the negative? I cannot understand why you seem so majorly pissed at my comments: plebians are allowed into art exhibitions too, mate, and my opinion is as irrelevant or as relevant as anyone else's...Unless you are suggesting that only the opinions of those who 'fully understand' installation art should be considered? <BR/><BR/>Again, peace.Scarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000921519899599070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-15969098643601298452007-04-13T14:28:00.000+02:002007-04-13T14:28:00.000+02:00Mr. Tariq, I notice that you yourself say you're n...Mr. Tariq, <BR/><BR/>I notice that you yourself say you're not a big fan of blogs, while blogs are just words on the mind of people, expressing what they're thinking. I'm sure installation art must be based on a similar idea, but I have personally seen monument X and I would like to know if Amnesiac's understanding is correct.<BR/><BR/>It may be expressing something, but somehow for the untrained mind there is a certain guidance that is needed.<BR/><BR/>It would be beneficial if you gave us all some guidance on the blog instead of telling us that you're not that much into blogs and taking the time to visit a blog and tell us that you're not that much into blogs.Wael Eskandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17685842195441037505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-29486288057287692252007-04-13T13:57:00.000+02:002007-04-13T13:57:00.000+02:00Well, I'm not really a big fan of blogs and stuff,...Well, I'm not really a big fan of blogs and stuff, so I will just add a small comment after reading the link you gave me. It's amazing, You chose to waste your time making fun of Phil Collins and Rebecca Warren and their likes, while you could be reading more about contemporary art.. trying to understand the 'joke' that everyone else is laughing at. But it felt to me like it was more of a personal thing between you and contemporary artists.<BR/>If you don't like Haiku, fine.. read Danielle Steel, but why waste your time attacking Haiku?<BR/>More than a century ago, Paul Gauguin was laughed at 'cause he painted the people in yellow and the sea in red! History repeats itself.<BR/>As I said, I'm not into Blogs, so I will let bloggers do their thing! whatever that thing is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-6257635034525349722007-04-10T23:09:00.000+02:002007-04-10T23:09:00.000+02:00Tarek! Thanks for giving me your feedback rather t...Tarek! <BR/>Thanks for giving me your feedback rather than e.g. throwing hard objects at my head.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if you were being serious about me getting the concept Monument X conveys. I would be amazed if you were. If you have a moment look at this:<BR/> http://allthegoodnameshadgone.blogspot.com/2006/10/money-for-old-rope-polemic-on-modern.html<BR/><BR/>...to understand where I'm coming from. I really would like the secret of understand installation art to be revealed to me, because at the moment it feels like everyone is enjoying a private joke to which I am not privy.<BR/><BR/>As for the Weekly hiring a layman...I was most definitely hired for abilities other than art appreciation (in the traditional sense) as we have both remarked on, but I think actually, that my not having much of a clue is the point, somehow.<BR/><BR/>Anyway no hard feelings, and for every buffoon like me I'm sure that there is someone else who really understands and feels your stuff. Peace.Scarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000921519899599070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-80964045776425685412007-04-10T01:49:00.000+02:002007-04-10T01:49:00.000+02:00I found your blog by chance, while googling my sho...I found your blog by chance, while googling my show- Monument X! First I was impressed that someone who doesn't understand.. installation art, could still get the concept. The 'giant grey Lego' parts, mistaking the space for a 'building site'. This is exactly what I meant to say!! Glad to see that someone who (describes herself as) lowbrow and dense when it comes to art could still get the meaning behind the piece.<BR/>What surprises me.. (not really), is that Aharm Weekly hires someone who doesn't know much about art to cover 'independant culture'!! <BR/>Keep it up!<BR/>TZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-48250688775333386022007-04-05T10:27:00.000+02:002007-04-05T10:27:00.000+02:00Thanks mate, kind words indeed :-)Thanks mate, kind words indeed :-)Scarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000921519899599070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-11818411064354852882007-04-05T04:44:00.000+02:002007-04-05T04:44:00.000+02:00A -- i've been more and more enjoying your effortl...A -- i've been more and more enjoying your effortless switching from inane posts like the my queen one to commentaries like this post (although, of course, you're not one to leave your sarcasm at home. ever.) <BR/><BR/>the middle part of this piece was moving. i am not a very hopeful person in general, but things like this, for some reason, lift my spirit. at least momentarily. thanks.fully_polynomialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02626627354385237871noreply@blogger.com