tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post468286030295134865..comments2023-10-10T10:50:56.735+02:00Comments on Inanities: The day Egypt was stillbornSarah Carrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02146943046266549277noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-14144352308439882672008-05-12T23:01:00.000+02:002008-05-12T23:01:00.000+02:00seneferu- so you're saying this was gov't orchestr...seneferu- so you're saying this was gov't orchestrated?<BR/><BR/>maybe I'm missing a crucial point here.. <BR/><BR/>but I'm definately curious.Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501121330101103343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-84749805357257477572008-05-11T18:26:00.000+02:002008-05-11T18:26:00.000+02:00I don't rule out at all the government playing a p...I don't rule out at all the government playing a part in the vandalism that happened on April 6th (only a part though, as the eyewitnesses here say), but that's exactly the problem in that both the government and the opposition are preoccupied with making public fools out of each other (see your newer post above), but to do so it is <I>the public</I> that they try to fool, yet unwittingly end up more insulting its intelligence than fooling it (see <A HREF="http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/article2.aspx?ArticleID=104758" REL="nofollow">the latest</A> of "the Judges" troupe today. IMHO they are doing a marvelous job at making public fools out of themselves in the papers every other day, without the government's assistance at all.), and that's the part of it that I really don't like. Which brings us back to my original point of the spontaneity of April 6th, which I'm still not buying for the reasons above as well as others I mentioned before. Maybe I'm just pigheaded.<BR/><BR/>I like the Gandalf comment, makes me laugh every time.Seneferuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156245757294970589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-28296405896571362252008-05-10T05:16:00.000+02:002008-05-10T05:16:00.000+02:00black is all i see black is what i am black is all...black is all i see black is what i am black is all that i will be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-35078778514298191542008-05-10T02:23:00.000+02:002008-05-10T02:23:00.000+02:00i love your blog - i don't know whether it is beca...i love your blog - i don't know whether it is because of, or in spite of, it being the antithesis of the Marriott Gardens and the (other) big debates of the day, such as whether 7000 or 8000 LE is a good price to pay for a bit of undeveloped desert wasteland, or whether ice-cream is an appropriate accompaniment to a dish of blueberries & strawbs or not.<BR/>keep it up luv - and looking forward to your take on the recent price-hikesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01565923873932260991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-11173697468016410962008-05-09T17:16:00.000+02:002008-05-09T17:16:00.000+02:00Forsooth: I have changed the colour, aho, after ma...Forsooth: I have changed the colour, aho, after many similar complaints. <BR/><BR/>Mr E: Thanking you.<BR/><BR/>Ramy: Specify which movement. And see response to Seneferu, below.<BR/><BR/>Seneferu: I would argue that an uprising doesn't require strictly worker involvement in order to constitute an uprising. <BR/><BR/>When I say uprising I mean a spontaneous outpouring of anger directed at a shared grudge, here el 3'ala2. The fact that it happened at the end of a shift is indicative of leading role that historically, the factory has had in Mahalla. <BR/><BR/>It seems quite natural to me that el Ma7alawy would seek direction from the factory, even if workers themselves were not 'formally' involved in the uprising.<BR/><BR/>This might also explain why similar uprisings didn't erupt elsewhere in the country. <BR/><BR/>If this wasn't an uprising, I'm not sure what it was. Government media attempts to paint this as a riot I would argue have been conclusively refuted by eyewitnesses. See this: http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=13153<BR/><BR/>As for your point about April 6th gloating, that requires a separate post. <BR/><BR/>Molly: Thanks. Yes, May 4th never happened.<BR/><BR/>re. Gandulf: someone made the same observation on my Flickr account...Scarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000921519899599070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-68791554490605114212008-05-09T15:54:00.000+02:002008-05-09T15:54:00.000+02:00Very good post, I also thought it was interesting ...Very good post, I also thought it was interesting how nothing came of the second attempt at a strike. The "strike" on April 6th had much more momentum behind it, so much so that even among the Egyptian community here in the US it made waves.<BR/><BR/>I heard nothing about the second one. <BR/><BR/>I also just want to say that the guy reminds me less of Moses and more of Gandalf.<BR/>Just sayin'.Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501121330101103343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-49085586406472363932008-05-08T14:22:00.000+02:002008-05-08T14:22:00.000+02:00Would you hate me if I object to the term 'Mahalla...Would you hate me if I object to the term 'Mahalla uprising'? The workers had nothing to do the with the riots according to you, el mokhber el yom and the <A HREF="http://elijahzarwan.net/blog/?p=598" REL="nofollow">mokhber Elijah</A> (naqlan 3an that other mokhber Issandr), and I just find it hard to believe that a mass of youths - only youths - would spontaneously erupt in Mahalla – and only in Mahalla (and at <A HREF="http://www.almasry-alyoum.com/article2.aspx?ArticleID=100428" REL="nofollow">4 pm sharp</A>, end of working hours?) – when they didn't anywhere else in the country, in a 3ezbet Khairalla or a stabl 3antar. And I hate to see the leading lackeys of el Nasseri now gloating over the 6th of April as the spontaneous spark of a revolution that it wasn't.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe that just makes me a regime-hugging fascist, so shame on me.Seneferuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156245757294970589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-26188126083142442892008-05-07T19:39:00.000+02:002008-05-07T19:39:00.000+02:00very apt title.i share your thoughts and sentiment...very apt title.<BR/>i share your thoughts and sentiments, i think.<BR/>im not quite sure what u think of the future of this movement as you are not prone to speculation.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05959946684475332968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-76858851134279314302008-05-05T20:31:00.000+02:002008-05-05T20:31:00.000+02:00Great post, Mme Inanities. Chapeau.Great post, Mme Inanities. Chapeau.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35137734.post-2224196273121882212008-05-05T11:26:00.000+02:002008-05-05T11:26:00.000+02:00it is mind boggling fe3lan how the egyptian govern...it is mind boggling fe3lan how the egyptian government sees publicizing its many abuses as more damaging than the abuses themselves...when the suppression causes more embarrassment in the end.<BR/>good post. black background makes blog a bit hard to read tho.Forsoothsayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02765993032234113659noreply@blogger.com